Fingolfin fought Morgoth, gave him some wounds. Then his sons raised up their father and bore him back towards Mithrim. He had invested power and energy into his servants, and had thus lost it. The Lord of the Rings Minecraft Mod Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. It's not in the actual books but I think from his letters. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Sauron at the start of the First Age would probably be quite a bit stronger than he was in the fight against GG/E. - Sauron, a criminal with a penchant for mind games and bad romantic decisions. And he never presented as an omega... At the end of the War of Wrath, Eonwë captures Mairon, who he still loves. With the ring, he was more powerful than Morgoth (at the point at which Fingolfin fought him near the end of the FA), since much of Morgoth's power had gone into his minions and into the roots of the Earth. They fuck the Orcs up and get them on the run. Snippets from the months leading up to the destruction of Almaren, the dwelling place of the Ainur in middle earth. The only reason Galadriel could resist his influences as well as she did was because she was in possession of Nenya, one of the Three Rings of the Elves. The highest ranking officer who fought Morgoth in the War of Wrath was Eonwe, herald of Manwe, who was a Maia and not a Vala. Mairon Aulendil dislikes his job, for all that it may seem like a dream job for people who don't know better. Isolated and hurt, he finds himself lucky to have a friend like Eönwë. @silverrings: he gave a god fight to Morgoth, the biggest bad of LoTR verse. steriods vs. some regular Maiar Eonwe. However, we can do something I rarely do and go back to The Book of Lost Tales to dissect some of J.R.R. That fight isn’t a good judge of his power. Hurting a being as powerful as Morgoth is obviously very impressive, but it's hard to draw comparison, y'know? He has done bad things, and he sees that they are bad. Gorlim, one of Barahir's companions, was captured and brought before Sauron. Feanor is just not thought of to be a warrior, because he died very fast.. Let's recap how he died: The Noldor land in Beleriand. I don't think Sauron even in his prime was even a fraction of strength of even weakened Morgoth, Maiar are strong but Valar are on another level altogether, if Fingolfin could confront Morgoth, the greatest of Valar, even as a shadow of his former self he would certainly be able to at least stand toe to toe with Sauron, if not outright defeat him, Sauron was powerful, no denying that, and was bestowed with a portion of Morgoth's power making him head and shoulders above all other Maiar, but by the third age he was in extremely weakened state given that he put majority of his power into the ring that he eventually lost. greatest of arms in Arda. please.

Unfortunately, when Tolkien rewrote his stories he often started at the beginning and just didn’t get to the last chapters. Feelings are definitely not involved. Sauron should win. I don't think Fingolfin would have found victory against Sauron at his prime as easily as you presume.

Guys, this if f*cking Fingolfin. Morgoth had lost a lot of his latent power, and Sauron was greatest at the end of the Second Age. Morgoth, alone amongst the Valar, felt fear at the coming of Fingolfin. Unless of course you have a quote from the books that says otherwise?! Sauron? From the outside, in fact, they have to look like a great tryptic: Darkness spying on Temptation while he plays with Innocence. Please consider turning it on! Eönwë is the poor broken thing's lover. //From somewhere in the darkness in front of them, they heard Melkor s voice calling for them. Yet that contradicts an earlier comparison. Ithilion, Discussions Moderator(Auta i lómë). I would probably buy you some hot wings on the house.

Feanor was outright said to be the mightiest of the Children of Iluvatar.. Do you think Fingolfin would beat Feanor High King Ithilion? The Valar showed up and dragged Morgoth off for the second time.
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Tolkien’s literary ideas. But it's still telling how much he seems to lose in fights. He's supposed to be the manager of the music sensation of the century, not the baby-sitter for a self-destructive wreck of a man.


It was the pure and utter waste that he felt the most regret for, really. Fingolfin should win this. Yep. So while Sauron would surely be a strong foe and it would be a hard-fought battle, there's a strong chance Fingolfin would triumph, almost certainly against Third Age Sauron and potentially against Second Age as well. Sauron in his prime may be a bit harder fight and could probably go either way, the ring was not just a container for Sauron's power, it was an amplifyer, Sauron with the ring was much more powerful then he ever was before he created it, so that fight could go either way. Fingolfin would win, but as others mentioned, your listed cases are exceptional. And Fingolfin stands alone where minutes ago they had just faced off. Manwë has heard good things about Mairon.

Every time it hits the ground it makes a hole the size of a large empty pool with each swing and you're barely able to dodge it.. you are doing very good if you somehow managed to whoop that house ass for Atleast a few seconds. There he would have perished, had not his sons in that moment come up with force to his aid; and the Balrogs left him, and departed to Angband. I just want to clarify for the group: Sauron is explicitly at his strongest during the Second Age, and at that point he was of equal or higher strength to Morgoth at the end of the First. He was corrupted. The beginnings are always tough. Work Search: As far as Gandalf is concerned it is worth remembering that he was heavily restricted in what he could do when he was sent to Middle Earth, the Istari were not supposed to confront Sauron directly, had they been able to do so i have no doubt that the five of them could easily overpower Sauron even in his prime, but it was decided that people of Middle Earth should be allowed to forge their own future and Istari should be just guides and councilors. He would be likened to a demon king irl, but not Satan, who was visualized to be melkor. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, but bear in mind that each of those examples is something of a special case. I also remember Tolkien talking about how part of the reason Gandalf joined the quest to kill Smaug was so that Sauron couldn't get him on his side. That’s a good question. Featuring:- Eonwe, a cop with a bone to pick and a lot of pretentious prose to spout.- Sauron, a criminal with a penchant for mind games and bad romantic decisions.- Fingon, a university dropout just trying to keep his lifeguarding career afloat.- Maedhros, an exhausted lawyer hiding his growing anxiety problem behind false smiles and firm handshakes.- Maglor, a musician with a title to defend.- Daeron, a foreign vocalist with a dark past. The Silmarillion said: Yet it is said that Morgoth looked not for the assault that came upon him from the West; for so great was his pride become that he deemed that none would ever again come with open war against him. He would definitely beat Gothmog. Sauron assailed Minas Tirith and turned it into a watch tower for Morgoth. His wrath was such that many mistook him for the Vala Orome as he rode towards Angband. Sauron, could never get Dragons or Balrogs on his side, Morgoth on one hand had them as his Lieutenants and servants. - Fingon, a university dropout just trying to keep his lifeguarding career afloat. "Yet cause he had for great joy, though it was hidden from him for a while. Upon hearing of the deeds of Barahir and his companions, Morgoth ordered Sauron to find and kill them. The only time we see him win is when he dueled Finrod, and even then it was a battle of spellcraft and not a physical duel. There upon the confines of Dor Daedeloth, the land of Morgoth, Fëanor was surrounded, with few friends about him. soooo me and my great cousin (GET AN ACCOUNT ALREADY) did a little thing over a night (yes a full night - we didn't sleep) with a bit more preperation time.Anyways this is what came out of it. (Excuse the horrible summary, I can't think of anything better at the moment, so it will change with time, but basically it's the 'Seduction of Mairon' period, in a very, very unhappy manner. From the "Valaquenta' in the Silmarillion: Chief among the Maiar of Valinor whose names are remembered in the histories of the Elder Days are Ilmarë, the handmaid of Varda, and Eönwë, the Fingolfin Fresh From Valinor would easily beat Sauron though, regardless of that. Sauron remains in the shadows and Fingolfin senses him. Eonwe is the mightiest of the Maiar. High so who do you think would win in a fight? It is a time of feast in Almaren and all are gathering to celebrate.

Sauron. But what happens outside of Middle Earth?


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